Post 56. Was Tutankamun a Viking?

Was  Tutankamun,   

the  last   legal   Pharao  of  the    18th   Dynasty,  

the   son  of  Akhenaten,   

a   Viking?

( From  an   e-mail  sent  to  my  well-meaning   collaborator  
Tim,   from  Utah-U.S.A.  a   good-willing,   well-meaning   North-American )

I  reckon   Xuereb [  a member  of   Tim's   Y-DNA-haplogroup   group   with  a   couple  hundred   members.............and   growing,    of   R1b1b2s  with   Ferrers-links  who  is   sodden   with   Viking-lore  ]    must  have  been   there  in  that    Laboratory fucking  everything   up.......................

Tutankamoun   an  R1b1b2? 

Why  not  a  Viking?................

Haaaaahaaaaaaaaaaahahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Moreover...............................................
Saul=Akhenaton?
I   quote  from   a  Report  in  its   original  ink-colour, sent  me   by  Tim-:

In my opinion, the evidence is incontrovertible 
that King Saul =Echnaton (Akhenaten),
King David = Sethos and 
King Solomon = Ramses II 
with Shishak = Ramses III.

Unquote.
(  sorry..............the  ink-colour   took  over)

What the  hell is   going  on?    I  feel   guilty  enough   about   Sir  Laurence  Gardner   saying    Akhenaton   was    also  Moses,   but  it  appears  there  are  theories  even  more    overboarding/wild  then   what  has  been  accepted   so   far  as  orthodox.  

I  am  reading   a  Book    titled  "Testament "  by  John  Romer  
(  an  archaeologist & egyptologist ), Collins  Dove,  Melbourne,   1989,   writing   for  the  Australian  Broadcasting  Corporation,   therefore   very  common-sensical   as  all  Aussies    are   reputed   to  be   so   here   in  the   DOWN-UNDER-UPSIDE-DOWNER,   which    is   even   doubting   wether   David  and  Solomon   ever  existed,  as  there is   not  a  shred   of   archaeological/written  evidence   of   them,   except  in   the  Scriptures,   and   suggests  the Old  Testament   was   a  literary  work   synthetising    the  Hebrews   world-view,    placing   Israel  and  Judah   at  the  center   and   integrating  into  the stories   we  accept   as   historical  facts,    the   events  that  occurred   all   over  Palestine.   A   sort  of   synthetic   sampling,  editing   and   redacting    into  an  idealised   framework,  every   bit  being  part  of   history  and  true  in   isolation  (  i.e.,  there  must  have  occurred  leaders   such  as  David  and  Solomon  in  Palestine   as the  later   Maccabees   who   really existed,   have  been  ),  but  the   whole  a   construct.  Some  sort  of   large   Propaganda   Tract,   the  which  makes   Mohammed  and  Islam   justified  in  their  mistrust   of  the   Jews   and  their  rejection  of   the  O.T.   beyond   the  Pentateuch (  the   first   five   books  of  the  O.T.) in  the   way   the    Israelites   of   Moses   and  the   Samaritans      had  been  ( in  opposition  to  Judah )!

Example   from  page   92  of   op.cit.-:

That  city  which,  the  Bible  tells us,   David   took   from  its  indigenous  population,  the  Jebusites,  must  be  the  Iron   Age   ruin   beneath   the  Temple  Mount  in  the  south-east  of  the  present   city,  excavated   in  large  measure,   during   the  past   fifty  years (  see  Plate  7  ).   But  here,  it  must  be  admitted,   there is    still   no  hard   evidence  that    this   is   really  David's   city.     Neither,  indeed,  is  there a   shred  of   contemporary    archaeological   evidence    to   show  that   David  or  Solomon   had  existence   outside  the    pages  of  the  Bible.   Once   again,   the   question  of  the  Bible's   accuracy    arises:     how   much  of  this  book    can  be taken as   historical   record   in  the  modern  sense  of  the   words?   Is  it   an   historical  document   in  the  same  sense    as  Eliashib's   [  my   comment:  The   Military   Governor  of   the   Negev-fortress  of  Arad   which  also  had   a  Temple   like  Jerusalem   against    Priestly    requirements  of    a   centralised     sacrifice-making  centre   for   the  sake  of   National  Unity ]   dispatches   at    Arad   or  the  thousand  of   cuneiform   tablets    that  are  straightforward   fragments  of     ancient  daily   life?    Any  scholar   will  say  that  the  Bible   is  not   at  all  like  that;  certainly   there is a  vast   amount   of  genuine   ancient   material   in  its   books,   but  this   has  been  collected,   collated   and  edited,   checked    time   and  time  again.   In  other  words,  it is  simply   not  a  history  book....................

The   City  of  David   takes  its  name   and  its  fame   from  the  Bible.   A  few  inscriptions   from  the  site,   odd  lines   inscribed   in  empty  tombs,   tiny  impressions  of   seals   that  once   fastened  papyri,   are   written   in  Hebrew  and  therefore  testify   to  a  genuine   Israelite  presence   in  the  Iron  Age   city;   but   these  are   all  from  ages    later   than  the  time   of  David  and  Solomon.

........................................................................................................................................................*    Certainly,  this   ancient   town  beneath   the  Temple   platform   was  a   part  of   an  ancient  Jerusalem;   David's   city   perhaps,  just   as  it  was   Jesus'   too.   But  long   before  Jesus'   day   it  had   grown   up  over   the  higher  hills   to the  north  overlooking   the  site of   Solomon  biblical   Temple  of   which,  like  the  king   who  made  it,   not  one trace  has   survived.

....* Such  a paucity of  of  inscriptions   and  monuments,  however,  is   quite  normal   and  should  not   excite   suspicions.   The   ancient   Israelites  were  not  given   to  memorials   that  would  last.

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unquote.

What  about  the   various   destructions  of  the  Temple......Assyrian,  Babylonian, Roman  and  a    quite  possible   Islamic  tamperings   with  evidence?

But  some   shred   of    evidence   would  have  remained.

All   these   new   findings   require   synthesis   and   normalisation   otherwise  we get  into   intellectual   and  ethical  CHAOS!

Perhaps  it is   already  too  late.

Why...............................................(  as   John  Wayne  used   to   utter  in   his   films  with  his  famous   foolish  Irish   grin  and  smirk   when  surrounded  by   the   bad   Injuns  ) ............................,  this  even  makes   Gardner,   my  hypothesis  about   the  semantic   origins  of  the   surname   
' Ferreri '  and  the derivation  of   all  "gensferreria/ferraria",   including    Tim's   R1b1b2s   and  Xuereb  the  Viking,    from  Lake  Geneva  since  100   B.C.    and  the   Hebrew/Irish  Genealogical  Charts,   from   the    Covenant  Publishing   CO.  LTD.,  including  the  Desposyniic (  in relation   to  a   link   to   David ) ones,  more   credible  than  the  Old  Testament's   Hebrews'   Propaganda! 

Even    better,   the  Mormon   theories   and  hypothesis    receive  an  increased  credibility,   which   suits  me,   
since    what is  TRUE   is  that  which   WORKS    ethically .   
However  all  this  does  not    have  to   affect   the  credibility of  the  ETHICAL/NORMATIVE/PARADIGMATIC   content  of  the   Old  Testament   which  makes  Mohammed  again   WRONG.    
Actually   both   Jews   and  Moslems   missed   the  incontrovertible  fact  that  God  cannot  be  limited   to,  respectively,   the  Creator (  the  plural  Elohim ) or   a  Pure  Spirit   (   the  ATEN  of   Akhenaten  ),   since   God  is   both  Spirit   and    God's  Spirit-in-Humanity-in-action  in  Evolution.

Genesis   reads:
..........ruah   elohim   merahepheis   al   phenei   hammayim.......
  
So,   Jews  and   Moslems,   you  misguided  idiots,  pull   your   act   together........will   you?...........and   stop    piss-farting   around   and   causing   all  the    murder   and    bloodshed   in  the  name  of   your   god (sic )   involving   us   also,   that   you   started   ca.  4000   years  ago?
Intermarry  with  your    cousins   the  Arabs,   your   religious    relations   the   Moslems,  and   vice-versa,   and    use  CONDOMS  please  as  there   are   already  too  many  of   you  and  of  us  or   anybody  else  on   Earth!
Eliminate   the    causes   of   your    fighting   for   water  and  land  and   unchecked   reproduction   and   stop  insulting    God-  the-Holy-Spirit   with   your   hypocritical   religious  claims. 
Try   to  learn   something   from    History.  
The   question  remains  always  valid   though,   wether  the   Jews   and  other   readers   of  the O.T.   and  the   Moslems   apply   the  ethical  lessons  from   their  sacred  texts  into a  daily   PRAXIS   considering  their  willingness  to  murder  one-another.  
For   what?   
In  order  to   acquire   control  of  the  resources   that  allow   them   to   reproduce   unchecked  in  contrast   to  the fact  that  the   world  is  overpopulated.

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If   Romer  is    correct......."What  about  the   various   destructions  of  the  Temple......Assyrian,  Babylonian, Roman  and  possible   Islamic-tamperings   in  relation  to  the   archaeological   lack  of   evidence  about  the  existence  of  David  and   Solomon? ".

But  some   evidence   would  have  remained.

All   these   new   findings   require   synthesis   and   normalisation   otherwise  we get  into   intellectual   and  ethical  CHAOS!

Perhaps  it is   already  too  late.

Would  you  be  so  kind  as   to   let  me  know   about  Tutankamoun's   Haplogroup  as  soon as  certainty  is   acquired?

Thanks. 

Regards.

55. Our Most Probable Beginnings

Our Most Probable Beginnings

( A rationalisation ).

 The Mediation of angelic Intelligences in Creation.

 This Article presupposes the existence of a self-subsistent, ultimate and absolute reality Who is a self-subsistent, living, intelligent, spiritual generator of ultimate, absolute living energy that is transfomable in all the known and yet unknown forms of energy  ( spiritual, biological, material, etc. etc. ) we, the intelligent beings in Creation are dependent on and subjected to.

 The three people of the Book( i.e., Hebrews, Christians and Mohammedans ) and a few others ( i.e., Buddhists, etc. ), believe in the existence of Angels, Demons being Angels who rebelled to God from pride, i.e., wishing to be like God, or superior to some other Angel or group of Angels.

 
Christians in particular believe in the existence of the human soul who is also a spiritual, intellectual substance.   Perhaps   there  is  a  way  that  a human  soul  and   an  Angel   are   similar,   except  that  a    human  soul   can  form   a    dedicated    link    with  a  human    body   becoming  a  human  person.  The   word  integrated    would  be  assuming   too   much  as  we   do  not  know   much  of   how   spirit and  matter   may  be  linked   together.   In  the  case  of  Jesus  of  Nazareth  we   the   Trinitarians    invoke  the   homeostatic   unity  in   Jesus   of    his   two  natures,   the  divine  and  the  human,   without  admixture........................etc.. 
An  Angel  cannot    do  this,   although   able   to    appear   as   a   human  being.   Christians  also believe in the existence of the Word, a spiritual being,  a  divine  person,   co-substantial with God   and  incarnated   in   the   Son  in  an   homeostatic  unity   with  his   human  nature,   as  the Holy Spirit.   Unlike    the   Moslems   and  the   Hebrews   who  make    bushes    and    asses   speak    for    God,    as   if   God  needed   a   human   or   animal   mouth   or   a  mouth   of   some    sort   (  Angels   only    use  these    or   anything   else  in   Creation  in  order    to   attract  and   focus   human   attention   onto  themselves  ),    we   believe   that  God   speaks   through   the    Word   who  is  a  spiritual  person,   co-substantial   with  the   Father  and  the   Spirit.     For   example's   sake,   if   God  needed   an   arm     without    the   mediation   of   an  Angel,   outside   the   supervision   of   the   Word  v( God's  Executive  in  Creation ),   God   would     generate   a   spiritual   person    called   The   Arm    who   would   do   everything    a  human   arm    can    do   in  a   divine    way.   However,   God   is  not   so   primitive    and  imperfect  or  impotent  or   limited  as   the  Moslems  and  Hebrews    believe  in  their     retrograde   thick   skulls,   that   God   needs  animals, bits  and   pieces  of    body  or   body's   functions    to    express    God.

God  is   Omnipotent   and    the   right    type   of   Christian   does    not   seek   to  limit   God,   while   remaining    within  the  realm  of  human  reason.

St.   Thomas   of   Aquina   was   in  fact   a  Master  of  Logic  and  an  interpreter   of    Aristotle,   who   first   among  the  post-Socratics  believed  in  the   worth  of   matter  and  reason,    in    alliance   with   spirit  and  soul.

So,   whenever  a  Moslem  or   a  Jew   insults   us  and   God    saying  that   we   say   that   God   is   many   gods,     they    are  drawing    fire  on  their   own   heads  as   we    do  not    say   such  a  thing   at  all,   however   humanly   failing   to   express   the   loftiness  of   the  issue   owing   to our   imperfect   power of    speech   and   thinking  that  is   syllogistic,  that   is..............sequential.   We  are   in  fact   all  slaves  of  the   syllogism,   even   our   Computers.

And   History  has   been  proving   just   this  oh    foolish   Wahabists   of   Mecca.

When   our   Scriptures   talk   about   Jesus   sitting  at  the   right   hand  of  the  Father    this   is  not  to  be   interpreted  literally.   Any   western   school-student   knows    this,  if   he/she  is   not  a    cleavage-    worshipper,  i.e.,  a  Pinocchio.

The   Holy   Trinity  can  only   be  inadequately  represented    by   Art,  as     neither   the  Father     nor  the   Son    nor  the   Holy  Spirit   have  a    human    body    but   are   spiritual  or  like  Jesus   who  has   also  a   glorified   body.  

The   Son  is   both   the   Word   and  the  man   Jesus  of   Nazareth   who  can    assume   at   will  an    ethereal,  visible,     glorified    human    appearance   outside   the   Holy  Trinity.

So,   what  are  you   waffling   about    foolish  Rabbis, Imams,  Meuzzins, Sheriffs, Khaliffs,  Ayatollahs,  etc.,   etc.?

We   know    what   we   say,   you    do  not   understand    what   we   say   because  of   your   malice   and   lust   for  independent,  undeserved   leadership  and  dominance,   the   sin   of   the  primordial   all-others-excluding   self-seeker,   the  idolater  of   exclusivity   and   preferential  preferment.

We also believe that the Word incarnated in the man Jesus of Nazareth who was born from Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit.    And   this    even   Mohammed   the  great    islamic   reformer    concurs    with.   I   am mentioning  all  these beliefs and Beings in order to show that the interactions between spirit and matter are severall and multifaceted in the church’s tradition. Those who choose to not accept these beliefs and refer to these as foolishness are the real fools since they cannot come up with anything to replace them except a Big Bang Theory which leaves one with a vast darkness, emptiness, void, etc. etc. a big arabic zero in short and a dozen or more boards full of formulae which only show an elephant like memory of a digital type ( the sort computers have ) without any substance or conclusion and the waste of billions of taxpayers’ dollars.      On the  other   hand,   Hebrews/Jews   have  remained  intellectually static,   a   religious   fossil,    anchored   to   Jehovah  the  Father and  Creator,  who  may  be  a  human  anscestor  of    Jesus    in   whom    also  the  Word   became  incarnated,     to   the   neglect  of   the  more  original   Holy  Spirit.   Similarly,   and   incompletely  so,  the   Mohammedans    have    embraced  the   Holy  Spirit   as   Allah,   neglecting    both  the  Father  and  Jesus   as   mediators   between  Spirit   and  humanity.   

Where is all the cleverness of that, hey? 

According to St.Thomas Aquina, known in the Middle Ages as Doctor Angelicus et Communis, Angels and Demons are in fact spiritual beings having purely intellectual substances ( See Summa Theologiae I, Treatise on the Angels. Questions 50-64). Angels can sin and incur all the range of guilts a human being can, when and if a human being in their care sins owing to their wrong counsel, or neglect of duty, while only being able to sin according to their own nature, according to affection, from envy and pride, that is not sensually.

An example particularly useful to what is going to follow,

Angels cannot actually marry a woman and procreate from her, however they can be overcome by the sin of pride and envy to desire to become like God, Who can do in principle anything God wishes to do for the purpose of doing good, and in a distorted attempt to emulate God may counsel a human being in their care to actually take possession of a woman, perhaps against some existing legal or moral impediment and to do similarly other sinful acts.   Angels  can   manipulate   nature   and  cause   a   woman  to  procreate   by   manipulating    scenarios  and  events.   Angels  can  be   behind   the  latest   feats   of   genetic  manipulations   as   spiritual  forces  manipulating   human  beings.    Although not induced to sin through any natural affection, they share in the guilt accruing from the sin of the human being for whom they are responsible. A Guardian Angel is in fact part of the structures of Grace God devotes   to   the enlightenment, prevention, support and supervision of every human being so privileged and endowed by God at Baptism.

According to St.Thomas, there is no limit to the number and specialisations of Angels God creates. As a matter of fact, in general, no two Angels are necessarily   the same.

 I remember a very important prayer to the Guardian Angel I was taught as a child which I am reproducing here slightly modified in order to help me and the reader to focus on what I am saying-:

"Angels of God who are the guardians of the living and the dead, enlighten, guard, support and supervise those who have been entrusted to you by the Heavenly Piety.    Amen!".

 God the Father and Creator also uses Angels in order to Create and to direct and supervise human beings from whom God wishes to obtain some specific performance.

An Angel or a group of these can act together as intellectual substances by becoming part of any created substance or creature in order to achieve some particular end, i.e., by directing and supervising the development of such a substance or creature in accordance to some preordained plan or purpose in accordance with a planned or preordained path of evolution.

I believe that, as shown by Science, God works in Creation through evolutionary paths, experimentally, through trials and errors, by creating prototypes, trying these and modifying, correcting, improving, etc. and rarely in a direct way, to achieve a final product. I believe with Sir Laurence Gardner that the Genesis section of our Hebrew Scriptures has been over simplified, manipulated by its redactors in between 800 and 600 BC, with regard to the appearance of Adam and Eve in relation to the occurrence of the Flood, the responsibility about and occurrence of Original Sin, if any such ever occurred at all, and has given a  false expectation about God’s creative powers and methods of creating. God does in fact not work in a direct and final way ( although God is Omnipotent and can theoretically do so), but in an experimental and gradual way in logical stages according to reason and scientific methodology.    

I shall attempt to speculate about the motives behind the hebrew manipulations of the Scriptures as mentioned by Sir Laurence Gardner in Genesis of the Holy Grail Kings and draw my own conclusions as to the effects of these manipulations in relation to present Christianity and to the political scenario of the western world and civilisation.

Most importantly, I believe Creation is a vast work fully involving all of God’s powers, which are infinite, in other words a vast work commensurate to God’s powers, dignity and greatness.

Creation is in fact not an accident ( i.e., a random event ) or a trivial game or a sporting engagement; it is mighty, difficult, serious, important work for God, according to a plan that requires experimentation, trials and errors, owing to it being commensurate to God’s powers, therefore engaging God to God’s infinite limits ( so to speak)!

This is so especially since human beings and Angels have been created with a free-will capable to oppose, resist and rebel against God, Who is aiming at infinite perfection.

This is amply demonstrated by the study of geological time, palaeontology, the appearance, evolution   and   above  all   and  most  importantly    the   extinctions  of   some   of  these  species, of the various species of hominoids and human beings. etc.. We are in fact told by what is visible of the geological strata of the earth that the earth’s crust has required at least 4,600 million years to reach the present condition and that changes of this are continuous, if in general deceivingly slow in comparison to the relative and comparative short span of a human being’s life.

The Big Bang itself which must have needed an organiser of the whole show and the generator of the initial spark, facts strangely glossed over by our brilliant human mnemonical-elephantoids with Doctorates, may have occurred from between 20 to 10 thousand millions years ago!

And remember that without a  Big Bang  no human being could appear either.

Just consider as an example the peculiar comment about God’s existence, made by Sir Laurence Gardner, who is supposed to be a vastly intelligent scientist, an expert in Quantum Mechanics and Physics, and the head of the Celtic Church, of the Templar organisation, etc. etc., at page 95 of his book Genesis of the Holy Grail Kings, where he suggests that the Anunnaki or Nephilim may exist on an unseen planet beyond Pluto’s orbit, or in an extra dimension of warped time, etc., and I quote-:

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and the origin of the Anunnaki must, for the time being, remain a matter of conjecture. In general terms, however, it is all rather less perplexing than the Judaeo-Christian concept of a single, unidentifiable entity who is perceived as having no source of origin whatever [God].

At page 64 of GHGK, Gardner makes a similar comment about the Angels as not having any spiritual or ethereal nature, however being able to benefit from some renewable gift of immortality assignable by an undefined or unspecified leader.

However even considering Gardner’s biased conclusions one cannot totally dismiss his concerns and information, as my own concerns, doubts and feelings of uneaseness have occurred during my theological studies of Genesis, long before reading Gardner..

Even our present specie of Homo sapiens sapiens sapiens ( most appropriately called by Gardner the Adamitic specie) is continuously evolving and a humble and honest study of the history of morality and ethics, made by somebody who is not a sycophant and a member of Homo pinocchius, the present stage of its development, may be pointing to a rapid degeneration and decadence of this specie, unless God intervenes again.

Who knows if, perhaps God’s plan is increasingly becoming to eventually blot us out as a failure, as God has done repeatedly in the past, and begin again with some new prototype?

 But let us go back to our beginnings.

 As I have mentioned in the first section of this Article, Geological, Climatic Scenarios & the Rise of Humankind, the first hominids (hominoids) began to appear in comparatively recent times, only 7 millions years ago, until the appearance at about 3.8 millions years ago of the Australopithecus species in its african( Afariensis) and asian variations ( Asiaticus or perhaps Java) who were allowed to evolve until either merged into the Cro-Magnon, estinguished or, and I am saying this only intuititvely, surviving in comparative purity in Papua New Guinea and the Australian Continent (i.e., the australian aborigenes).
The   appearance  of  the  Cro-Magnon,    in   circa   35,000 B.C.,   probably  of  the   'R'   Y-DNA   Haplogroup,   hence   a   genetically  very  late   mutation  of   the   biological   Adam   who   appeared   as  'A'     about   65,000   B.C.   on  the  northern   shores  of  Lake  Victoria  in  Africa,    is    itself  a  mystery  that may   point  to  human  survivors   of    a  previous   Global  Warming,   who   went   through  a   relatively   short   Glacial  Era,   the  last  one.   The  existence  of  the   Cro-Magnon  is   an  estblishee    fact   and   their  strong,  massive,  well   formed   skeletons   are   available   as  I  have  seen  two  specimen   in  the   Crypt  of   the   Church  of  St.  Ambrose  in  Milan-Italy.

One must not forget to mention, for completenes'  sake Homo abilis who appeared only 2 millions years ago, Homo erectus 1 million years ago, all either being absorbed by further prototypes or becoming extinct, like the case of the Neanderthal, whenever not genetically suitable or compatible with the existing plan. The Neanderthal is in fact a particular case we know about which appeared 70,000 years ago, which became extinct
(   to  be   continued )

54. About Idolatry.

About Idolatry.

This is the answer to a comment by Douga, in Post 61, below.

My noble Douga, I am overjoyed by your participation. I lost in the early afternoon an answer to both Tim and my beloved G.Y., somehow a fantastic comment that I could not possibly re-write as inspiration is never the same. On the other hand it also contained some of my borderline x-rated speculations which can be easily misunderstood and I am glad it did not go through.

Douga’s Comment-:

Hi Templar, I haven't read all these comments but did read your whole post

(rather long but a good read).

About that school, it is clear that because of the distance that it is from an Islamist community that they are trying to convert more people to their religion or slap the non- Islamic people in that area in the face with their religious beliefs.

But then you went on to accuse the Jews and Islamists of idolatry, maybe you should look at Catholicism with their bowing down to statues of the virgin and the rosary and all the other bullcrap that you Catholic's go on with. You ritualise communion and call a man 'Holy Father' disregarding the teachings of Jesus, but you consider yourselves Christian.

Regarding the subject of idolatry, this is of fundamental importance and no human being is totally free from some form of idolatry. Idolatry is anything that stands between anyone of us in our relationship with (God the Father, Jehovah, Jaweh ) and God.

Deuteronomy

5:7-:

You must never have any other gods against my face.

5:8-:

You must not make for yourself a carved image, any form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth.

5:9-:

You must not bow down to them or be led to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion.........................................................

Deuteronomy does not mention yet Jesus the Messiah and His controversial relationship to the Father. Jesus is in fact considered by some of us Christians also to be God, not “a God”, but God. The Gospels say Jesus and the Father are One. Jews and Moslems alike insist in calling us idolaters, since we figuratively claim that Jesus sits at the right-hand of the Father.

In Post 28 of my Google blog

http://wwwgensferreria.blogspot.com

I in fact explain the quite legitimate and acceptable way believers in the dogma of the Holy Trinity see the Oneness and Unity of the three spiritual beings who are the one and only Holy Spirit, pointing out at the unfair, even malicious anthropomorphical accusations of those ( including all jewish Rabbis and islamic Imams with their little hats, turbans and togas, etc., in their own way idolatrous paraphernalia ) who have remained behind in the knowledge of God’s knowledge’s increase resulting from the quantum-jump in human evolution at the time of Jesus descent on earth.

Of course this ideal insight cannot be represented, but it can be imagined by geniuses like Michelangelo, etc., but it is noble and grand and it enhances God's Omnipotence and Freedom while making God more accessible to humanity.

Tell me what Moslems or Jews imagine while praying to Allah or Jehovah, except the sounds of their ritualisations, recitations and incantations and formulations?

La', ila la', ilaa Allah.

Sh'maa, Israel, Yehwah Eloheinu, Jehwah Eihath.

Can the worship of God consist of words alone?

Of feelings? but how does a human being feel if not sensually and analogically?
The  sensual  is  the   door  to  all  knowledge  through   symbols  (   words  are   symbols   too  )  and   these  to  feelings.

Jesus of Nazareth is in fact an historical watershed which really separates a time BC from the one AD. In two thousand years one who is not blind or blinded by Shaitaan ( this applies to you people from Mt. Scopus or from Mecca ) has been witnessing a material, and spiritual evolution of the human species, the rate of increase of which far surpasses even the crescendo one sees in the 30,000 years BC, beginning from pre-Sumerian times and which has not only Semitic roots as the Holy Scriptures have been manipulated to make us believe.

Let us stop all their bullshit, for God’s sake and throw into their brazen, insensitive faces the centuries old scandal and obscenity of fratricidal wars in the Middle East. Do they believe more in the One God of Unity, Peace and Love or in the idolatries of their feuds, confrontations and dissensions, in the distinctions of their little hats, turbans, ghalabias and togas, some wearing black, others white, philacteries, circumcisions, halal and kosher nonsenses, etc. etc?

The christian understanding of God is to-day, for us christians, except for some who have not been trained and like to waffle, relying on the confusing list of verses taken out of context, fundamentally, as it must be, about the God of Oneness and Unity, at least much more so than in the case of Jews and Moslems.

In Post 28 I explain how the Oneness and Unity of the three purely spiritual beings, namely the Father, the Son and the Spirit must be understood, and become readly acceptable, strictly NOT UNTHROPOMORPHICALLY, as the artistic representations are bound to show. There is no way iin fact that a human artist can represent a spirit, except symbolically through the knowledge of our world of senses.

Yet it is surprising how anyone, even Douga, when one prays, how one sees God the Father one is addressing. We can only pray for the Gifts the Giver gives, and not know the Giver except through the Gifts, known through the world of senses. Knowledge, all human knowledge is sensual.

Come on, here I am waiting. Tell me.

Has anyone seen God except through HIS/HER/ITS gifts?

How does anyone then claim that one is indeed praying to Him/Her/IT and not to some idolatrous being or object among one’s desires, unless one is acknowledging the Giver of all?

Very important and fundamental question, Dear Watson, one which is at the heart of all Theology.

The prayer’s acting and being show the nature of the prayer’s God. Is the acting and being of Jews and Moslems in the World evidence of their worshipping the True , the One an Only God, or rather of Shaitaan?

A lusty arabic caravaneer can even see his beautiful  wife waiting for him back in the tent, confusing the gift with the Giver. Are we to condemn him if   she  has  been  God-given   to  him?

There are then idolatries and idolatries, which could be listed on an aristotelian list in accordance to an ethical value, on a prioritised basis or in accordance to how much the considered idolatry is affecting the relationship of the idolater with God. Aristotle is important and lack of knowledge makes the field of idolatries a plain, whereas there are priorities. Yes I love the ideal of Mary and of St. Mary Magdalene, and of course I love art works about them. It is insulting to an accuser ( I accept Douga as an inquirer though) to charge me with idolatrous worship of Mary and Magdalene. Yes there are many among Christians who do so but they are primitive people who cannot know better. What are we going to do, shoot them?

As an explanation, the highest attributes of God are Peace, Love and Unity. The worst, lowest, most damning idolatry is the one that rejects these attributes.

An idolatry like the one that says that the Qu’ran or the Old Testament cannot be interpreted in the light of the increased knowledge of God through the course of centuries, is therefore exceedingly damning too. We, the Gentiles have been flexible and open to God’s teachings through History. we are the true people of God as history is showing. The Gentiles originate from the Cro-Magnon human species which also benefited from by mixing with the adamitic one and as I shall show when I complete my modest Article about the Beginnings, manipulations of the Scriptures in Sumerian times ( oral tradition )have introduced some distortions which give Moslems and Jews false presuppositions and foster their unwarranted arrogance. Amen!

P.S. 1-: Talking about the Cro Magnon species, I wish to point out to whoever may be interested, before I die, that in Milan, Italy, when I was a boy of ten, the perfectly preserved skeletons of two men where exhibited in the crypt under the Main Altar of the Duomo, believed then to represent the remains of two saints or Martyrs. I believe one was called st.Pancratius. The skeletons had been found while digging the foundations of the Cathedral. They have now been identified as the skeletons of two Cro Magnon men. The Gentiles are descendents of this species which also mixed with the best of the Adamitic one.

I was impressed by the unbelieveable robustness, solidity and magnitude of their bones which I have always ascribed as I grew up, fundamentally to the lack of pollution of their times.

In 2004, I attempted to find out where these were now located without success. Maybe in St.Ambrose Church. The Italians are notorious absconders and manipulators of Truth.

P.S. 2-: On the subject of prayer I wish to present a Motto of a family of the De Ferrariis Clan, the Acciaiuoli, " Nescimus quid petamus Domine; Omnia pro meliora" tr." We do not know what to pray for, Lord; May all be for the Better" .

I have recently realised how this motto may be somehow arrogant and naive as a Christian should always acknowledge the fact that all human beings are sinners and that prayer should begin with a request for forgiveness. No one should feel justified in saying that one does not know what to ask for. The above motto should have been rather " Perdona nos peccata nostra, Domine; Omnia pro meliora" tr." Forgive 8us ouyr sins, Lord;May all be for the better". Tye criticised mootto was on a funerary monument and is indicative of how easy it is even for highly learned people to miss the fundamental issue in prayer.

53. The Truth about Moses' Identity.

THE EGYPTIAN CONNECTION.
( including Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Miryam, Aaaron
within the Genealogical Chart of
the 18th Pharaonic Dynasty ).
from pages 346, 347 of
Sir Laurence Gardner’s
“ Genesis of the Grail Kings ”,
with comments and evaluations
by Attilio Louis Ferreri,
Bachelor of Theology (UFT-Melbourne).

Notes-: Comments and Evaluations.

Note 1-: Mahalath ( or Nefru-sobek ), an egyptian princess of Royal blood, married Ishmael, the son of Hagar the egyptian slave of Abraham. Ishmael was the half-brother of Esau and Jacob, and as a widow of Ishmael, Mahalath married Esau, giving birth to Igrath, also of Royal blood, who became the second wife of Pharao Amenehmet IV (1797-1786 BC ), of the 17th dynasty, giving birth to daughters, including Zelekha and her sister the Dragon Queen, Sobeknefru or Sobekhkare, the latter becoming the wife of the last Pharao of the Sobek Dynasty, Amenehmet IV, son of the first wife Aat of Amenehmet III (1841-1797 BC ).
Note 2-: Aye (ca. 1352-1348 BC), the son of Yuya (Joseph ), became the first Am-ram ( see page 147, ‘ The Fire-Stone Project.’ in Sir Laurence Gardner’s “Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark. ”). ‘Am-ram’ was a designation or title probably inherited by Aye from his father Joseph, as another name fo this designation became ‘ Joseph ha-Rama-Theo ’, phonetically corrupted to ‘ Joseph of Arimathea ’.
Note 3-: Smenkhare, the scriptural Aaron, married a second wife Elisheba, daughter of Aminadab or Amenhotep, son of Rama ( the Aram ) and of the latter’s marriage to Kiya-tasherit, daughter of MIRIAM, sister of Tutankhamun and had a son Eleazar who married the daughter of Nashon/Putiel, son of Aminadab. Hezrom was son of Pharez, who was illegitimately born from Judah and Tamar, however legitimated through his marriage to Barayah, a legitimate daughter of Judah.
David descends from Jesse, Obed, Boaz , who through Salmon, via Nashon/Putiel, originated from Aminadab, related through Elisheba, sister of Nashon/Putiel, to Aaaron back to the lines of Hezrom and Shelah, both sons of Judah, however intermarried with the lines of Moses ( through the marriage between Aminadab and Kiya-tasherit, daughter of Miriam ), related to the first Judge of Canaan, Othniel, from the line of Hezrom, to Bezaleel, the Master Craftsman ( who made the Sacred Ark), from the line of Caleb. Since Eleazar, born from the second marriage of Aaron to Elisheba married a daughter of Nashon/Putiel, and fathered Ahimaaz who was the first Zadok High Priest created by David, the Aaronic Priesthood of levitic origins and the Zadok one coincide.
So, both the Davidic Kingship, the Zadok High Priesthood and the Aram Craftsmanship
converge into the line of Jesus and James through the death without issue of John the Baptist.
Note 4-: The oppositions between Cain and Seth, between Esau and Jacob, between the precedence of Aten the Holy Spirit and Yehwah the Creator, are all resolved in Jesus of Nazareth.
However this coincidence has not been seen, understood and accepted by the Nations in the present world and various opposing alignments still linger on in opposition to the Holy Spirit which requires Peace and Good-Will between the members of human kind and between the latter and Creation.

Note 5-: Miriam is a very important biblical character mentioned in Exodus and Numbers, however diminished and obscured by the Hebrew Priesthood ( Yahwists ) of the post-Babylonian captivity, in ca. 538 BC. She is mentioned as the nameless sister of Moses in Exodus 2:7, as the sister of Aaron in Exodus 15:20 and in Numbers 26:59 as the sister of both Aaron and Moses. There is clearly something missing in the whole scriptural account of the origins of Moses, considering the magnitude, importance and influence of the biblical personality of Moses, which gives an impression and feeling someone is hiding something without an outright use of lies, uttering half-truths which can be excused as errors or ignorance, a practice similar to the later talmudic approach and attitude to morality and ethics, an attitude later on adopted by the Roman Catholic Canon Lawyers in support of Constantinianism, an attitude of expediency and plausability. The obscuration of the truth about Moses and Miriam has also been the result of the eradication of all records and inscriptions referring to all members of the 18th Dynasty by the last ruler of this Dynasty, an Egyptian general called Horemheb who became Pharao through marriage and one suspects, usurpation and intrigue, after the death of young Tutankhamun, whose existence was discovered through the accidental finding of his tomb. Please note that Akhenaten's tomb has never been found as he, if indeed Moses, was buried by the Israelites in the wilderness. Horemheb’s motivation was both a hatred of ATEN ( the Holy Spirit ), the God of All Unity and Oneness, and a seeking of popularity with the Egyptian, idolatrous, well-to-do classes. There is a much respected Book of Jasher known to biblical circles, which tells the truth and let me quote from “Genesis of the Grail Kings “ by Sir Laurence Gardner, who, although confused, unable to synthetise what he knows for our times, is an excellent guardian and narrator of the truth. I am quoting from pages 290-291-:
..................Outside the Bible, however, Miriam’s story is told at some length----particularly in the book of Jasher, a work not selected in the canonical Old Testament. It was not until after some time after the death of Jesus that the separate scriptures of the Jews were collated into a single volume and it was then that certain books were excluded because they were at variance with the compositional strategy. One of these was the book of Jasher-----a book so important to the earlier Hebrews tha it is still mentioned twice in the canonical Bible. The very fact that these references are to be found in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, indicates that Jasher was around before these books were written-----and they each claim that it was a repository of essential knowledge. But although not promoted by the mainstream establishment, Jasher has not been as historically secret as one might imagine. The 9-foot ( ca. 3 m) Hebrew scroll was a prize of the Court of Emperor Charlemagne ( AD 800-814 ), having been discovered in Persia [Iran] by the monk Alcuin, who later founded the University of Paris. As a reward for his discovery, Alcuin was awarded three abbeys and became England’s Archbishop of Canterbury.
In the fourteenth century, the British Reformer and Bible-translator John Wyckliffe(1320-1384 ) wrote “ I have read the book of Jasher twice over, and I much approve of it as a work of great antiquity ” . It is generally reckoned that Jasher’s position in the Bible should be between the books of Deuteronomy and Joshua, but it was sidestepped because it sheds a very different light on the sequence of events at Mount Horeb. In person, Jasher was the Egyptian-born son of Caleb; he was brother-in-law to the first israelite judge Othneil( Judges 1:13 ) and was the appointed royal staffbearer to Moses.............................
Unquote.
The Israelites/Hebrews knew the truth but became obsessed with their racial hubris about their exclusive position in Creation as the physical Chosen People of Jahweh.
There is a further question a discerning, thinking reader of the Scriptures should ask as to why Moses or his sons Gershom and Eliezer were excluded from the Priesthood in favour of Aaron, if Moses had indeed been a natural/uterine brother of Aaron, rather than a baby ( a half-Egyptian cousin ) nursed and fed by Aaaron’s natural mother Tey, who was a Jewish woman of Levite descent. Moses was not a descendant of Levi, although rightly called, according to custom, a son of Tey, in virtue of her having been his feeding-mother, and his only Jewishness was second-hand, from his own mother Tiye, Aaron's paternal aunt, the daughter of a Jewish father, Joseph the son of Jacob who had married the Egyptian daughter of Potifarre the Priest of Ra’, his original master when a slave in Egypt.
Note 6-: AMRAM, RAMA, ARAM, RAMTHA, IMRAN, HA-RAMA-THEO, ARIMATHEA and Jochebed or Tey, Mose’ feeding-mother ( to be written later).
CONCLUSION-: The manipulations and obscurations present in the Scriptures are inevitable owing to the number and diversity of writers and redactors, each seing scriptural events from different angles, at different times in history, with different theological understandings, interpretations of the past, without a complete knowledge of the events, with different goals and world-views, an inadequate, defective understanding of physical categories, like power, force, work, energy and the relations of these to time, requiring modern Physics to clarify. Most contributors meant well and what we have received is still a miracle of God’s Communication and Revelation achieved with such biased and flawed tools.
As I observed above, in spite of all the obscurations and manipulations tending to minimise all influences other than those of the Hebrews of Canaan, it is clear Jesus’ anscestors included all participants, among whom even sinners were included, to the scriptural events in Mesopotamia and the Middle East, which shows the Holy Spirit DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE and loves to rehabilitate sinners, as in the end, there is no one innocent in relation to God ( see St. Paul’s Romans ). In spite of the efforts of Judaism to maintain the worship of Yahweh strictly an Hebraic Monopoly, Christianity became a universal Religion. It is time for Christianity to set some order in the Scriptures’ Interpretations, further honouring the wisdom of, say, Galatians 3:28, achieving and presenting a united Religious Belief to all other religious people in the World, this not to dominate but so as to act as an example of the praxis of Christian Ideals.
I, by nature a synthetiser, cannot personally understand the malice of Jews and Moslems in rejecting Jesus as the Ultimate teacher when/once it can be shown how he descends from Juda through David, and that Jesus’ ancestors have also intermarried with most representatives of the ancestors of the Arabic people, and all Mesopotamic people in general.
A plausible explanation may be that Mohammed, while aiming at the eradication of animism and politheism among his people, chose a path of separation from and rebellion against both the Jews and the Christians, as a form of Protest, as a representative of the Arabic grievances against the monopolising attitudes of the Hebrews/Israelites who had made themselves into the Chosen People of Jahweh as a Race of the Human Species, to the exclusion of all other mesopotamic religious and cultural contributions, rather than as the Ideal of a Spiritual Race, membership of which all human beings can aspire to, in accordance to Galatians 3:28. If this is true, it is time now for Moslems and Jews to join the Christians whose Reformations have clarified and somehow exposed the Hebrews’ misunderstandings.
This is why, although the ancient obscurations and manipulations have not damaged our present understanding of the Holy Trinity, having only obscured the essentiality and independence of the Spirit, and of the fact that the WORD is the Spirit operative in time and creation, perhaps both in Jahweh *and Jesus, it is nevertheless important to correct these faults, perhaps by adding a few more Books to the present Canonical Scriptures together with the re-evaluation and, if needs be, the shelving of Dogmas.
This might require another Global Ecumenical Council to be convened.

* This would require theological research and evaluation as it is a totally novel insight of mine.
I mean that there is in my mind a possibility, that Jahweh may also, like Jesus, have been an homeostatic presence of the Word, as Spirit in Creating and Making, in a human being who may have been a human anscestor of both David and Jesus.

52. The Sung Quran.

THE SUNG Q'URAN AT LAST!
A choice of six different singers!
A fantastic piece of work!
( I am far from being sarcastic!)

1.
Holy Quran Portal online
Read & listen to Holy Quran online
Arabic, English, & Urdu text/audio
www.quranexplorer.com

51. An expansion of " The Perfect Prayer ".

Attention all you thinking ( non-brainwashed ),
Hebrews and Mohammedans-:
This invocation can help you understand why you have remained limited
in relation to the understanding of, respectively
the Yehwah of the Hebrews' Old Testament
and the Allah of the Mohammedans' Q'uran.
Consider, please, Genesis 1:1, 2.
and the fact that the Christian Gospels
are essential to a complete understanding
of both the Old Testament and of the Q'uran.
Allah ( pure Spirit or ruah elohim ), is of paramount importance, however needs mediation by someone more than mere human beings such as laypersons, Rabbis, Mohammed or Ministers, Pastors, Priests.
Funny hats, rituals, sacraments, memorisation of texts and prayers, do not help either, without a mediation from the Word, through the Father and the Son.
Even the Q'uran admits Jesus was conceived through the intervention of the Holy Spirit ( an Angel of Allah ).
Allah, rationally and logically operates in Generation, Creation and Making through the mediations of Jehovah and Jesus in virtue of their close associations with the WORD who is the only Being of the same spiritual nature as Allah ( generated not created or made ).
Jehovah is in fact the Elohim, whose holding of the Holy Spirit, as the Word, allowed Jehovah to Make humankind and to Sustain Creation-in-Time.
Respectfully speaking and thinking, a divine Mediator is required, as Allah's and Jehovah's powers cannot be approached by unmediated/unrepresented humankind.
Even Mohammed recognised the existence of Angels who operate and execute Allah's Will ( the WORD ) on behalf of Allah.
Could the greatest Being ( ATEN/ALLAH ) in the whole Cosmos be conceived to operate and execute with ITS own hands and receive messages personally ( un-mediated/unrepresented) being IT a pure SPIRIT and ITS invisible/hidden power being such that it destroys any ordinary living being approaching IT?
Can any life form survive meeting a Being whose power is greater than any nuclear explosion, whose spiritual power is infinite?
So, what is this self-delusion that one can pray to, communicate with Allah, who is a purely spiritual power, without the mediation or representation or advocation of a divine Being such as the WORD, who is Spirit in operation-in-Time, associated with
Yahweh-the-Father and Jesus-the-Son?
Please allow me to tell you, who are so self-deluded, your approach is both insulting and stupid and not to be tolerated to-day when understanding and knowledge have increased, written messages have been completed,
meant to be synthetised by the three peoples of the Books, LOVINGLY and in mutual respect, not in satanic bloodshed.
So, get the facts/truth correctly and stop killing one another for a lack of understanding, and scheming against us the West, oh misguided Jews and Islamists, before it gets too late.
Do you ever ask yourselves why you have lustily kept on killing one another for centuries and desiring to subdue all others in the name of your limited/defective understanding?
In fact, while we in the West have been changing and progressing, in spite of the corruption of many, you are still chained to an incomplete and unsatisfactory interpretation of God.
While saying this to you, I also admit the West is also in need of Ethical Reformation/Renewal and a re-evaluation of its Democratic Constitutions.
I am inviting both Jews and Islamists to work together with us in understanding and working for God.
Remember we are the three peoples of the Books.
If you refuse, your own blood is on your own heads.

Perfect Prayer of
Recognition in Invocation.

Hail Holy Spirit,
ATEN ( ALLAH ),
image-less, hidden, pure, restless, free,
ubiquitous, omnipresent,
outside Time,
un-mediatable by, un-involved with humankind
except-through
the Father and Jesus.

Hail Holy Spirit,
holder of all forms of Life,
Powers and Energies-in-Time,
through Time,
originator of Time,
Generator of the WORD,
who, as Spirit in action, operation, and creation
Created the heavens, earth and worlds.

Hail WORD,
who as spirit in operation,
are Yehwah ( Yahweh/Jehovah ),
Father and Maker of the human race,
and who, as spirit in operation,
are also Jesus the Nazarene,
Son and Mediator.

Haem.

Note-: Amen the ancient egyptian attribute of Aten, borrowed by the Israelites, does not mean ' So be it ' as Haem does so.

50. I Believe in God.

This prayer is a sequel to post 49-: Holy Spirit and is based on the Roman Catholic Creed, in a recognition of the primacy of the Spirit, which is not the same as predominance.
It arises from my concern for and a desire of the unity between the religions of the peoples of the Books, of whom Mohammed spoke of when in his good-willing and peaceful moments. I dedicate therefore this Prayer to Mohammed who loved Allah as Spirit, as the imageless and hidden God of the Egyptian Akhenaten, Pharao Amenhotep IV of the 18th dynasty, the father of Tutankhaten ( Tutankhamon ), who was related to the israelite Joseph.
I mean it to be and function as a general guideline and not to be in competition with or substitution to any existing prayer.
I remain while writing or praying it an Apostolic Roman Catholic, in and loyal to the Faith in which I have been born by God's will.
Its links to Judaism is to be through the agency of Yahweh ( the Elohim of Genesis 1:2, the ruah of whom is meant to be ATEN ) and to Mohammedanism through the agency of Aten the Holy Spirit ( ruah elohim) who I believe to be approached most closely by the mohammedan Allah. However, both Mohammedanism and Judaism are in my interpretation of Genesis, incomplete in so far as these exclude the mediation of the Word both in the Generation and Creation of humankind respectively through Aten and Yahweh
( in so far as both spirit and flesh constitute a human being. in an analogical way that both the Word and Adam constitute Jesus of Nazareth).
In my interpretion, Yahweh is a divine agent that could very well be the Word. There could be a possibility of a simplification of the whole scenario which would reduce to Aten and Jesus, since the Word incarnated in Jesus. However since the Incarnation does not mean miscegenation or mixture, one can still say there is-: Aten, Word ( Yahweh) and Jesus in a Trinitarian Unity and Oneness.

CREED.
I believe in ATEN
the Omnipotent God,
the Holy Spirit,
the origin of Power
for all Life, for all Energies
and for their transformations,
the generator of the Word
before time ever was.
I believe in Yahweh ( Jehovah),
the Creator, through the Word,
the maker of Heaven and Earth
and the Father of humankind.
I believe in Jesus of Nazareth,
the Word, generated as such by the Spirit,
made by the Father Yahweh in so far as a man,
born of the woman Mary,
through the agencies of the Word
and of Joseph of the Line of David.
I believe in the invisible, heavenly
Church of Melchizedeck,
to which all earthly, lawful churches are subjected,
their lawfulness being demonstrated
through the christian praxis of their members.
So it may be.